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Bug#928353: release-notes: document mutt vs neomutt in buster
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Paul Gevers
2019-05-02 17:00:01 UTC
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Package: release-notes
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Dear (neo|)mutt maintainers,

I recently learned about the mutt versus neomutt situation in buster via
the blog [1] of jmtd (in X-D-CC). I believe mutt and neomutt warrant a
note in the release notes, don't you agree?

As the maintainers of this software, you are in the best position to
write this. Are you willing and able to provide a piece of text? MR
against the release notes archive [2] are welcome, but otherwise just
sent to this bug is fine.

Paul

[1] https://jmtd.net/log/mutt_year_zero/
[2] https://salsa.debian.org/ddp-team/release-notes/
Paul Gevers
2019-05-05 13:00:02 UTC
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Hi,

I'm not sure if this release-notes bug that I addressed to you actually
reached you.

Paul


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Subject: Bug#928353: release-notes: document mutt vs neomutt in buster
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 18:53:55 +0200
From: Paul Gevers <***@debian.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <***@bugs.debian.org>

Package: release-notes
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Dear (neo|)mutt maintainers,

I recently learned about the mutt versus neomutt situation in buster via
the blog [1] of jmtd (in X-D-CC). I believe mutt and neomutt warrant a
note in the release notes, don't you agree?

As the maintainers of this software, you are in the best position to
write this. Are you willing and able to provide a piece of text? MR
against the release notes archive [2] are welcome, but otherwise just
sent to this bug is fine.

Paul

[1] https://jmtd.net/log/mutt_year_zero/
[2] https://salsa.debian.org/ddp-team/release-notes/
Antonio Radici
2019-05-06 17:40:01 UTC
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Thanks for pinging me, I missed this, let me comment on the bug.
Post by Paul Gevers
Hi,
I'm not sure if this release-notes bug that I addressed to you actually
reached you.
Paul
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Bug#928353: release-notes: document mutt vs neomutt in buster
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 18:53:55 +0200
Package: release-notes
Dear (neo|)mutt maintainers,
I recently learned about the mutt versus neomutt situation in buster via
the blog [1] of jmtd (in X-D-CC). I believe mutt and neomutt warrant a
note in the release notes, don't you agree?
As the maintainers of this software, you are in the best position to
write this. Are you willing and able to provide a piece of text? MR
against the release notes archive [2] are welcome, but otherwise just
sent to this bug is fine.
Paul
[1] https://jmtd.net/log/mutt_year_zero/
[2] https://salsa.debian.org/ddp-team/release-notes/
Antonio Radici
2019-05-06 20:10:01 UTC
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This is what I propose to write down in the release notes, feel free to adjust
as you see fit

====
Starting from Buster, the mutt package will be shipped again from the original
sources from https://www.mutt.org, this means that some of the features that
were previously available due to patches applied to the mutt project, which we
shipped as 'mutt' for the Stretch release, are no longer availables and that
your configuration might be broken.

If you want to restore the previous behavior you can install the 'neomutt'
package which will ship the '/usr/bin/neomutt' binary; that is built off the
sources from https://www.neomutt.org.
====
Justin B Rye
2019-05-06 20:50:01 UTC
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Post by Antonio Radici
This is what I propose to write down in the release notes, feel free to adjust
as you see fit
Thanks!
Post by Antonio Radici
====
Starting from Buster, the mutt package will be shipped again from the original
sources from https://www.mutt.org, this means that some of the features that
were previously available due to patches applied to the mutt project, which we
shipped as 'mutt' for the Stretch release, are no longer availables and that
your configuration might be broken.
If you want to restore the previous behavior you can install the 'neomutt'
package which will ship the '/usr/bin/neomutt' binary; that is built off the
sources from https://www.neomutt.org.
This describes things in an odd order. Could we explain the Stretch
situation first, *then* what's happening in Buster? And that
explanation needs to include the fact that the source of the patches
applied to the Debian mutt package was neomutt. Something like:

<section id="mutt and neomutt">
<!-- stretch to buster -->
<title>mutt and neomutt</title>
<para>
In stretch, the package <systemitem type="package">mutt</systemitem>
had patches applied from the sources at <ulink
url="https://www.neomutt.org">https://www.neomutt.org</ulink>. Starting
from buster, the package providing <literal>/usr/bin/mutt</literal> will
instead be purely based on the original sources from <ulink
url="https://www.mutt.org">https://www.mutt.org</ulink>, and a separate
<systemitem type="package">neomutt</systemitem> package is available
providing <literal>/usr/bin/neomutt</literal>.
</para>
<para>
This means that some of the features that were previously provided by
<systemitem type="package">mutt</systemitem> are no longer available. If
this breaks your configuration you can install <systemitem
type="package">neomutt</systemitem> instead.
</para>
</section>
--
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sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular package
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2019-05-07 19:30:02 UTC
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