Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team

[Niels Thykier]

Package: release-notes
Severity: normal

Dear installer team,

I am contacting you to do a final review of the release-notes for the
d-i related topics (as listed on [1]):

"""
Check with d-i team for specials with this update (check esp. if old
versions of d-i should be purged if new versions enter $suite's d-i
area)
"""

Thanks,
~Niels

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam/ReleaseCheckList

[Baptiste Jammet]

Hello,

Post by Niels Thykier
I am contacting you to do a final review of the release-notes for the

Here are some items I think it's important to highlight, taken from d-i
release announces.
I tried to clean the page a bit and mark some old stuff as wheezy.
Please review because I'm not a native english, and I surely forgot
some important changes.

Baptiste

P.S. diff against installing.dbk r10511

[Niels Thykier]

Post by Baptiste Jammet
Hello,

Post by Niels Thykier
I am contacting you to do a final review of the release-notes for the

Here are some items I think it's important to highlight, taken from d-i
release announces.
I tried to clean the page a bit and mark some old stuff as wheezy.
Please review because I'm not a native english, and I surely forgot
some important changes.
Baptiste
P.S. diff against installing.dbk r10511

Thanks, I have applied the patch mostly as-is (though dropping most of
the Wheezy-only items) and followed up with a new patch on top.

I tried to ask in #debian-i18n about the new languages, but so far no
one has replied me. I am a bit overbooked, so if any you have time to
follow on that, then I would greatly appreciate it.

If there are further changes, please by all means let me know.

Thanks,
~Niels

[Holger Wansing]

Hi,

Post by Niels Thykier

Post by Baptiste Jammet
Hello,

Post by Niels Thykier
I am contacting you to do a final review of the release-notes for the

Here are some items I think it's important to highlight, taken from d-i
release announces.
I tried to clean the page a bit and mark some old stuff as wheezy.
Please review because I'm not a native english, and I surely forgot
some important changes.
Baptiste
P.S. diff against installing.dbk r10511

Thanks, I have applied the patch mostly as-is (though dropping most of
the Wheezy-only items) and followed up with a new patch on top.

The release-notes currently contain

Graphical installer

Graphical installer is now the default on supported platforms.
Text installer is still accessible from the very first menu, or if
the system has limited capabilities.

AFAICS this is not true.
On the RC3 i386 netinst CD the text installer is still the default.

Remove that paragraph?

debian-boot: please confirm the status.


Holger
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[Cyril Brulebois]

Post by Holger Wansing
The release-notes currently contain
Graphical installer
Graphical installer is now the default on supported platforms.
Text installer is still accessible from the very first menu, or if
the system has limited capabilities.
AFAICS this is not true.
On the RC3 i386 netinst CD the text installer is still the default.
Remove that paragraph?
debian-boot: please confirm the status.

Indeed, that was one of the plans for Jessie but the patches only got
pushed a few days ago (IIRC, Didier can correct me if needed), and it
seems a dangerous or at least non-trivial change at this point.

Maybe just comment it out to avoid removing translations if there are
any? We'll try and get that done at the beginning of the Stretch release
cycle.


As a side note: I have failed to review the release notes at the moment,
sorry about that; been otherwise busy already…

Mraw,
KiBi.

[Didier 'OdyX' Raboud]

Post by Cyril Brulebois

Post by Holger Wansing
The release-notes currently contain
Graphical installer
Graphical installer is now the default on supported platforms.
Text installer is still accessible from the very first menu, or if
the system has limited capabilities.
AFAICS this is not true.
On the RC3 i386 netinst CD the text installer is still the default.
Remove that paragraph?
debian-boot: please confirm the status.

Indeed, that was one of the plans for Jessie but the patches only got
pushed a few days ago (IIRC, Didier can correct me if needed), and it
seems a dangerous or at least non-trivial change at this point.

That's correct. We're talking about #485586, for which I only pushed
patches on 29. March (sorry for that
). The patches are mostly
reorganisation and reordering, but I agree with KiBi: the risks at this
point are too high.

Cheers, OdyX

[Holger Wansing]

Hi,

Post by Niels Thykier
I tried to ask in #debian-i18n about the new languages, but so far no
one has replied me. I am a bit overbooked, so if any you have time to
follow on that, then I would greatly appreciate it.

I have looked into this. Based on
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/d-i/debian-installer.git/log/build/translation-status
I compared the files from "Sat, 06 Apr 2013 18:00:22 +0000"
(which is equivalent to Wheezy release) and "Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:11:00 +0000"
(this week).
If I leave out all languages that only changed the number of untranslated
strings, I get this:


--- translation-status_wheezy_cleaned-out 2015-04-19 20:34:47.466571125 +0200
+++ translation-status_jessie_cleaned-out 2015-04-19 20:43:40.305213489 +0200
@@ -64,6 +64,7 @@
sv
ta
te
+tg
th
tl
tr



So the new language in Jessie is: tg -> Tajik *applause*

I have double-checked, Tajik is indeed not available in Wheezy installer,
but in Jessie. And it is available in both text and graphical installer
in Jessie.

Based on that, I have prepared a patch against installing.dbk
(attached).


Holger

[Christian PERRIER]

Post by Holger Wansing
I have double-checked, Tajik is indeed not available in Wheezy installer,
but in Jessie. And it is available in both text and graphical installer
in Jessie.

By the way, Tajik is, IIRC, not 100% complete in the Jessie installer:

Charset is UTF-8. Stats: sublevel1/tg.po: 632 translated messages, 2 fuzzy translations, 11 untranslated messages.
Charset is UTF-8. Stats: sublevel2/tg.po: 525 translated messages, 1 fuzzy translation, 1 untranslated message.
Charset is UTF-8. Stats: sublevel3/tg.po: 562 translated messages, 6 fuzzy translations, 14 untranslated messages.
Charset is UTF-8. Stats: sublevel4/tg.po: 237 translated messages.
Charset is UTF-8. Stats: sublevel5/tg.po: 102 translated messages, 3 fuzzy translations, 3 untranslated messages.

It's not that bad and anyway too late for Jessie, but if someone
worked on the release notes for Tajik, (s)he might want to complete
the D-I strings as well.

[Niels Thykier]

Post by Holger Wansing
Hi,

Post by Niels Thykier
I tried to ask in #debian-i18n about the new languages, but so far no
one has replied me. I am a bit overbooked, so if any you have time to
follow on that, then I would greatly appreciate it.

I have looked into this. Based on
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/d-i/debian-installer.git/log/build/translation-status
I compared the files from "Sat, 06 Apr 2013 18:00:22 +0000"
(which is equivalent to Wheezy release) and "Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:11:00 +0000"
(this week).
If I leave out all languages that only changed the number of untranslated
[...]
So the new language in Jessie is: tg -> Tajik *applause*
I have double-checked, Tajik is indeed not available in Wheezy installer,
but in Jessie. And it is available in both text and graphical installer
in Jessie.
Based on that, I have prepared a patch against installing.dbk
(attached).
Holger

Thanks, I have applied your patch as-is.

~Niels

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