Korean traslation of Debian History

Hi,

Post by sebul
Hello. I'm a Korean.
I translated Debian History.
Review my translation please.
https://salsa.debian.org/sebul-guest/project-history/-/blob/master/po4a/po/ko.po

For proofreading of the Korean parts, you could try to get a review on the
korean l10n mailinglist.

Nevertheless, some comments:

#. type: Content of: <book><bookinfo><legalnotice><itemizedlist><listitem><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:81
msgid "Ian Murdock"
-msgstr "Ian Murdock"
+msgstr "이안 머독"

Isn't "Ian Murdock" a personal name, which should be untranslated?
Similarily, you have "Hartmut Koptein" + "Nils Lohner" + "Will Lowe" +
"Bill Mitchell" untranslated as well...
And in the following ...

#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><section><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:167
msgid ""
"The official pronunciation of Debian is 'deb ee n'. The name comes from the "
"names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife, Debra."
msgstr ""
"Debian 공식 발음은 'deb ee n'. 이름은 데비안 창시자 Ian Murdock 그리고 그의 "
"아내 Debra에서 왔다."

... Ian Murdock is also untranslated.

Moreover, "Debian" is untranslated above, however there are many cases where
it seems translated, like here:

#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:176
msgid "Debian has had several leaders since its beginnings in 1993."
-msgstr "데비안은 1993년 이래로 몇몇 리더가 있었다."
+msgstr "데비안은 1993년 이래로 여러 리더가 있었다."

In the following there are many cases, where leader's names are also
translated:

#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:179
msgid "Ian Murdock founded Debian in August 1993 and led it until March 1996."
-msgstr "이안 머독은 1993년 8월에 프로젝트를 만들었고 1996년 3월까지 이끌었다."
+msgstr "이안 머독이 1993년 8월에 프로젝트를 만들었고 1996년 3월까지 맡았다."

#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:182
msgid "Bruce Perens led Debian from April 1996 until December 1997."
-msgstr "부르스 페렌스가 그 뒤를 이어 1996년 4월부터 1997년 12월까지 이끌었다."
+msgstr "부르스 페렌스가 그 뒤를 이어 1996년 4월부터 1997년 12월까지 맡았다."

#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:185
@@ -336,107 +306,91 @@ msgstr "위커드 애커만이 1999년 1월부터 2001년 3월까지 맡았다."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:191
msgid "Ben Collins led Debian from April 2001 until April 2002."
-msgstr "벤 콜린스는 2001년 4월부터 2002년 4월까지 맡았다."
+msgstr "벤 콜린스가 2001년 4월부터 2002년 4월까지 맡았다."

#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:194
msgid "Bdale Garbee led Debian from April 2002 until April 2003."
-msgstr "브데일 가비가 2002년 4월부터 2003년 4월까지 이끌었다."
+msgstr "브데일 가비가 2002년 4월부터 2003년 4월까지 맡았다."

Maybe, all such cases should be consistently?
(or is there some sort of mechanism in Korean, which lead to this different
behaviour?)

Holger

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sebul

2020-04-16 20:30:02 UTC

Thank you.
I translated personal names into Korean.

I read https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.ko.html
This format is new, but Korean translation was outdated, to make matters
worse, mail to previous Korean translator failed.

Review my Korean translation please.
My work is at
https://salsa.debian.org/sebul-guest/project-history/-/raw/master/po4a/po/ko.po

Post by sebul
Hello. I'm a Korean.
I translated Debian History.
Review my translation please.

https://salsa.debian.org/sebul-guest/project-history/-/blob/master/po4a/po/ko.po

Post by Holger Wansing
For proofreading of the Korean parts, you could try to get a review on the
korean l10n mailinglist.

Post by Holger Wansing
#: project-history.en.dbk:81
msgid "Ian Murdock"
-msgstr "Ian Murdock"
+msgstr "ìŽì ëšžë"
Isn't "Ian Murdock" a personal name, which should be untranslated?
Similarily, you have "Hartmut Koptein" + "Nils Lohner" + "Will Lowe" +
"Bill Mitchell" untranslated as well...
And in the following ...
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><section><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:167
msgid ""
"The official pronunciation of Debian is 'deb ee n'. The name comes from the "
"names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife, Debra."
msgstr ""
"Debian ê³µì ë°ìì 'deb ee n'. ìŽëŠì ë°ë¹ì ì°œìì Ian Murdock ê·žëŠ¬ê³ ê·žì "
"ìëŽ Debraìì ìë€."
... Ian Murdock is also untranslated.
Moreover, "Debian" is untranslated above, however there are many cases where
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:176
msgid "Debian has had several leaders since its beginnings in 1993."
-msgstr "ë°ë¹ìì 1993ë ìŽëë¡ ëªëª ëŠ¬ëê° ììë€."
+msgstr "ë°ë¹ìì 1993ë ìŽëë¡ ì¬ë¬ ëŠ¬ëê° ììë€."
In the following there are many cases, where leader's names are also
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:179
msgid "Ian Murdock founded Debian in August 1993 and led it until March 1996."
-msgstr "ìŽì ëšžëì 1993ë 8ìì íë¡ì ížë¥Œ ë§ë€ìê³ 1996ë 3ìê¹ì§ ìŽëìë€."
+msgstr "ìŽì ëšžëìŽ 1993ë 8ìì íë¡ì ížë¥Œ ë§ë€ìê³ 1996ë 3ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:182
msgid "Bruce Perens led Debian from April 1996 until December 1997."
-msgstr "ë¶ë¥Žì€ íë ì€ê° ê·ž ë€ë¥Œ ìŽìŽ 1996ë 4ìë¶í° 1997ë 12ìê¹ì§ ìŽëìë€."
+msgstr "ë¶ë¥Žì€ íë ì€ê° ê·ž ë€ë¥Œ ìŽìŽ 1996ë 4ìë¶í° 1997ë 12ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:185
@@ -336,107 +306,91 @@ msgstr "ìì»€ë ì ì»€ë§ìŽ 1999ë 1ìë¶í° 2001ë 3ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:191
msgid "Ben Collins led Debian from April 2001 until April 2002."
-msgstr "ë²€ ìœëŠ°ì€ë 2001ë 4ìë¶í° 2002ë 4ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
+msgstr "ë²€ ìœëŠ°ì€ê° 2001ë 4ìë¶í° 2002ë 4ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:194
msgid "Bdale Garbee led Debian from April 2002 until April 2003."
-msgstr "ëžë°ìŒ ê°ë¹ê° 2002ë 4ìë¶í° 2003ë 4ìê¹ì§ ìŽëìë€."
+msgstr "ëžë°ìŒ ê°ë¹ê° 2002ë 4ìë¶í° 2003ë 4ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
Maybe, all such cases should be consistently?
(or is there some sort of mechanism in Korean, which lead to this different
behaviour?)
Holger
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Holger Wansing

2020-04-16 20:50:01 UTC

Hi,

Post by sebul
Thank you.
I translated personal names into Korean.
I read https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.ko.html
This format is new, but Korean translation was outdated, to make matters
worse, mail to previous Korean translator failed.
Review my Korean translation please.
My work is at
https://salsa.debian.org/sebul-guest/project-history/-/raw/master/po4a/po/ko.po

I already looked at that, and I wrote an answer to you. (I is quoted in your
mail, in fact! See below!)
Could you please comment on my questions I asked there?

Moreover, I asked you to call for a review on the Korean mailinglist,
to get comments from mother-tongue Korean speakers. Did you try that?

Holger

Post by sebul
Hello. I'm a Korean.
I translated Debian History.
Review my translation please.

https://salsa.debian.org/sebul-guest/project-history/-/blob/master/po4a/po/ko.po

Post by Holger Wansing
For proofreading of the Korean parts, you could try to get a review on the
korean l10n mailinglist.

Post by Holger Wansing
#: project-history.en.dbk:81
msgid "Ian Murdock"
-msgstr "Ian Murdock"
+msgstr "이안 머독"
Isn't "Ian Murdock" a personal name, which should be untranslated?
Similarily, you have "Hartmut Koptein" + "Nils Lohner" + "Will Lowe" +
"Bill Mitchell" untranslated as well...
And in the following ...
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><section><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:167
msgid ""
"The official pronunciation of Debian is 'deb ee n'. The name comes from

the "

Post by Holger Wansing
"names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife, Debra."
msgstr ""
"Debian 공식 발음은 'deb ee n'. 이름은 데비안 창시자 Ian Murdock 그리고 그의 "
"아내 Debra에서 왔다."
... Ian Murdock is also untranslated.
Moreover, "Debian" is untranslated above, however there are many cases

where

Post by Holger Wansing
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:176
msgid "Debian has had several leaders since its beginnings in 1993."
-msgstr "데비안은 1993년 이래로 몇몇 리더가 있었다."
+msgstr "데비안은 1993년 이래로 여러 리더가 있었다."
In the following there are many cases, where leader's names are also
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:179
msgid "Ian Murdock founded Debian in August 1993 and led it until March

1996."

Post by Holger Wansing
-msgstr "이안 머독은 1993년 8월에 프로젝트를 만들었고 1996년 3월까지 이끌었다."
+msgstr "이안 머독이 1993년 8월에 프로젝트를 만들었고 1996년 3월까지 맡았다."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:182
msgid "Bruce Perens led Debian from April 1996 until December 1997."
-msgstr "부르스 페렌스가 그 뒤를 이어 1996년 4월부터 1997년 12월까지 이끌었다."
+msgstr "부르스 페렌스가 그 뒤를 이어 1996년 4월부터 1997년 12월까지 맡았다."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:185
@@ -336,107 +306,91 @@ msgstr "위커드 애커만이 1999년 1월부터 2001년 3월까지 맡았다."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:191
msgid "Ben Collins led Debian from April 2001 until April 2002."
-msgstr "벤 콜린스는 2001년 4월부터 2002년 4월까지 맡았다."
+msgstr "벤 콜린스가 2001년 4월부터 2002년 4월까지 맡았다."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:194
msgid "Bdale Garbee led Debian from April 2002 until April 2003."
-msgstr "브데일 가비가 2002년 4월부터 2003년 4월까지 이끌었다."
+msgstr "브데일 가비가 2002년 4월부터 2003년 4월까지 맡았다."
Maybe, all such cases should be consistently?
(or is there some sort of mechanism in Korean, which lead to this

different

Post by Holger Wansing
behaviour?)
Holger
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Holger Wansing

2020-04-17 22:00:03 UTC

Hi sebul,

Post by sebul
Thank you.
I translated personal names into Korean.

Ahhh, I overlooked this part of your mail yesterday.

Post by sebul
I read https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.ko.html
This format is new, but Korean translation was outdated, to make matters
worse, mail to previous Korean translator failed.
Review my Korean translation please.
My work is at
https://salsa.debian.org/sebul-guest/project-history/-/raw/master/po4a/po/ko.po

I already looked at that, and I wrote an answer to you. (I is quoted in your
mail, in fact! See below!)
Could you please comment on my questions I asked there?

Uhhh, sorry, I did not found your answer above, where you answered to my
question regarding the personal names. I did not expected that answer at
that place of the mail. I have learned, that quoting/answering in mails is done
below the question; so that's why I did not found your answer.

So, the translated personal names are ok, as you said.
Ok, that seems to be a specialty of Korean then.

Post by Holger Wansing
Moreover, I asked you to call for a review on the Korean mailinglist,
to get comments from mother-tongue Korean speakers. Did you try that?

This part is something, where I cannot judge anyway.
And looking at debian-l10n-korean, I saw that some sort of proofreading
is ongoing :-)
So, I will wait for you next mail ;-)

Holger

Post by sebul
Hello. I'm a Korean.
I translated Debian History.
Review my translation please.

https://salsa.debian.org/sebul-guest/project-history/-/blob/master/po4a/po/ko.po

Post by Holger Wansing
For proofreading of the Korean parts, you could try to get a review on the
korean l10n mailinglist.

the "

where

1996."

different

Post by Holger Wansing
behaviour?)
Holger
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sebul

2020-04-18 14:10:01 UTC

Hello. everybody.

I notice my translation at debian l10n korean list.
I accepted others opinions.
Please review my tranlation.
https://salsa.debian.org/sebul-guest/project-history/-/raw/master/po4a/po/ko.po

Thank you very much.

Post by Holger Wansing
Hi sebul,

Post by sebul
Thank you.
I translated personal names into Korean.

Ahhh, I overlooked this part of your mail yesterday.

Post by sebul
I read

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.ko.html

Post by sebul
This format is new, but Korean translation was outdated, to make

matters

Post by sebul
worse, mail to previous Korean translator failed.
Review my Korean translation please.
My work is at

https://salsa.debian.org/sebul-guest/project-history/-/raw/master/po4a/po/ko.po

Post by Holger Wansing
I already looked at that, and I wrote an answer to you. (I is quoted in

your

Post by Holger Wansing
mail, in fact! See below!)
Could you please comment on my questions I asked there?

Uhhh, sorry, I did not found your answer above, where you answered to my
question regarding the personal names. I did not expected that answer at
that place of the mail. I have learned, that quoting/answering in mails is done
below the question; so that's why I did not found your answer.
So, the translated personal names are ok, as you said.
Ok, that seems to be a specialty of Korean then.

Post by Holger Wansing
Moreover, I asked you to call for a review on the Korean mailinglist,
to get comments from mother-tongue Korean speakers. Did you try that?

This part is something, where I cannot judge anyway.
And looking at debian-l10n-korean, I saw that some sort of proofreading
is ongoing :-)
So, I will wait for you next mail ;-)
Holger

Post by sebul
Hello. I'm a Korean.
I translated Debian History.
Review my translation please.

https://salsa.debian.org/sebul-guest/project-history/-/blob/master/po4a/po/ko.po

Post by Holger Wansing
For proofreading of the Korean parts, you could try to get a review

on the

Post by Holger Wansing
korean l10n mailinglist.

Post by Holger Wansing
"Bill Mitchell" untranslated as well...
And in the following ...
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><section><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:167
msgid ""
"The official pronunciation of Debian is 'deb ee n'. The name comes

from

Post by sebul
the "

Post by Holger Wansing
"names of the creator of Debian, Ian Murdock, and his wife, Debra."
msgstr ""
"Debian ê³µì ë°ìì 'deb ee n'. ìŽëŠì ë°ë¹ì ì°œìì Ian Murdock ê·žëŠ¬ê³ ê·žì "
"ìëŽ Debraìì ìë€."
... Ian Murdock is also untranslated.
Moreover, "Debian" is untranslated above, however there are many

cases

Post by sebul
where

Post by Holger Wansing
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:176
msgid "Debian has had several leaders since its beginnings in 1993."
-msgstr "ë°ë¹ìì 1993ë ìŽëë¡ ëªëª ëŠ¬ëê° ììë€."
+msgstr "ë°ë¹ìì 1993ë ìŽëë¡ ì¬ë¬ ëŠ¬ëê° ììë€."
In the following there are many cases, where leader's names are also
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:179
msgid "Ian Murdock founded Debian in August 1993 and led it until

March

Post by sebul
1996."

Post by Holger Wansing
-msgstr "ìŽì ëšžëì 1993ë 8ìì íë¡ì ížë¥Œ ë§ë€ìê³ 1996ë 3ìê¹ì§ ìŽëìë€."
+msgstr "ìŽì ëšžëìŽ 1993ë 8ìì íë¡ì ížë¥Œ ë§ë€ìê³ 1996ë 3ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:182
msgid "Bruce Perens led Debian from April 1996 until December 1997."
-msgstr "ë¶ë¥Žì€ íë ì€ê° ê·ž ë€ë¥Œ ìŽìŽ 1996ë 4ìë¶í° 1997ë 12ìê¹ì§ ìŽëìë€."
+msgstr "ë¶ë¥Žì€ íë ì€ê° ê·ž ë€ë¥Œ ìŽìŽ 1996ë 4ìë¶í° 1997ë 12ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:185
@@ -336,107 +306,91 @@ msgstr "ìì»€ë ì ì»€ë§ìŽ 1999ë 1ìë¶í° 2001ë 3ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:191
msgid "Ben Collins led Debian from April 2001 until April 2002."
-msgstr "ë²€ ìœëŠ°ì€ë 2001ë 4ìë¶í° 2002ë 4ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
+msgstr "ë²€ ìœëŠ°ì€ê° 2001ë 4ìë¶í° 2002ë 4ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
#. type: Content of: <book><chapter><para>
#: project-history.en.dbk:194
msgid "Bdale Garbee led Debian from April 2002 until April 2003."
-msgstr "ëžë°ìŒ ê°ë¹ê° 2002ë 4ìë¶í° 2003ë 4ìê¹ì§ ìŽëìë€."
+msgstr "ëžë°ìŒ ê°ë¹ê° 2002ë 4ìë¶í° 2003ë 4ìê¹ì§ ë§¡ìë€."
Maybe, all such cases should be consistently?
(or is there some sort of mechanism in Korean, which lead to this

different

Post by Holger Wansing
behaviour?)
Holger
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